Vic Shayne
1 min readSep 11, 2024

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Wow, this is quite a long response; a lot to look over. But let me start with one of your first points:

Who taught me this? No one taught me. Learning, studying, listening to others, and belief have nothing to do with uncovering what I am beneath the shell of the self. It's common to refer to this idea of "who taught you" because this is how we are conditioned — it's a constant call to authority as if anyone could possibly know what I really am besides me. The same goes for you and everyone else. We are the only proof of our own selves.

Next, you wrote So myths are all-about-me, pathological alienated storification, personalization and neuroticization now?"

In a word, yes. But your use of the word pathological isn't apropos, or maybe you are just judging it this way. Myths turn the attention from the objective to the subjective, and the subjective is the self, and eventually this constant turning inward will dissolve the self. This is my personal experience. I have no interest in debating this or talking anyone into it, because this is not how such things can be known.

Instead of continuing on point by point I will say that your response is quite an angry condemnation and you are free to disagree, because it won't affect my own realization at all.

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Vic Shayne
Vic Shayne

Written by Vic Shayne

NY Times bestselling author writing about reality beyond thought, consciousness, and the self to uncover what is fundamental. https://shorturl.at/mrAS6

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